The Troy Hands Rocks The Cradle - Troy Tate Sessions

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akiraware ®

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Post 21-Apr-2006 22:53

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The Smiths
The Troy Hands Rocks The Cradle
Troy Tate
1983
Source: Many CDR Bootlegs > EAC WAVS > FLAC
Confirmed as non-MP3 derived, by Tau Analyzer 1.2.
Torrent created on 21th April 2006
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Release Notes
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01 Reel Around The Fountain
02 You've Got Everything Now
03 Miserable Lie
04 These Things Take Time
05 Wondefull Woman
06 Handsome Devil
07 Suffer Little Children
08 Pretty Girls Make Graves
09 Hand In Glove
10 What Difference Does It Make?
11 I Don't Owe You Anything
12 Jeane
13 Accept Yourself
14 The Hand That Rocks The Cradle
15 Miserable Lie (Alternative Mix)
16 Pretty Girls Make Graves (Alternative Mix)
17 Reel Around The Fountain (Alternative Mix)
18 What Difference Does It Make? (Alternative Mix)
19 Wondefull Woman (Alternative Mix)
Artwork is available at http://www.akiraware.com in the Cover Artwork Section
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Notes from PassionsJustLikeMine.com
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The Troy Tate sessions are the scrapped 1983 recordings for the Smiths' debut
album. Unsatisfied with the work of Troy Tate as a producer, the Smiths
re-recorded their debut with producer John Porter. Unfinished versions of the
shelved Tate recordings have been in circulation on various bootlegs. Most of
them have two versions, some three, in circulation. Here is a rundown of the
songs in circulation and a list of bootlegs that include them.
Most bootlegs include the same tracks, referred hereafter as the core. These
are the best versions out there, the closest to releasable versions.
- Reel Around The Fountain (version 1)
- You've Got Everything Now (version 1)
- Miserable Lie (version 1)
- These Things Take Time (version 1)
- Wonderful Woman (version 1)
- Handsome Devil (version 1)
- Hand In Glove (version 1)
- What Difference Does It Make? (version 1)
- I Don't Owe You Anything (version 1)
- Suffer Little Children (version 1)
- Pretty Girls Make Graves (version 1)
- Jeane (version 1)
The following tracks are found on fewer bootlegs
- Accept Yourself (version 1)
- The Hand That Rocks The Cradle (version 1)
- Miserable Lie (version 2)
- Reel Around The Fountain (version 2)
- What Difference Does It Make? (version 2)
- Wonderful Woman (version 2)
These are available on the internet, but not on manufactured or widespread
bootleg cd yet. They are labeled as 'remixed' but actually sound rougher than
the versions from the core above.
- Reel Around The Fountain (version 3; perhaps same as version 2)
- You've Got Everything Now (version 2)
- Miserable Lie (version 3; perhaps same as version 2)
- The Hand That Rocks The Cradle (version 2; perhaps same as version 1)
- Wonderful Woman (version 3)
- Handsome Devil (version 2)
- Hand In Glove (version 2)
- What Difference Does It Make? (version 2)
- I Don't Owe You Anything (version 2)
- Suffer Little Children (version 2)
- Pretty Girls Make Graves (version 2)
- Jeane (version 2)
In short, the completist will want any of the following bootlegs featuring the
core described above (for example "The Cradle Snatchers" or "The Hand That
Rocks The Cradle"), and will find the missing tracks from the second section on
"Reel Around The Fountain" and "Wonderful Woman". "Troy Hands Rocks The
Cradle" listed below includes on one cd all 18 titles and versions from the
core and second section, plus a second version of "Pretty Girls Make Graves".
However this bootleg is very scarce. The versions in the third section aka the
'remixed' versions are available on the internet.
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DavidA

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Post 21-Apr-2006 23:50 (after 57 minutes)

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Thanks Akiraware. This is coming down fine. Nice first seed!
Nice info file too; I changed the font to monotype to make it look a little better.
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akiraware ®

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Post 22-Apr-2006 00:00 (after 10 minutes)

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Thanks Akiraware. This is coming down fine. Nice first seed!
Nice info file too; I changed the font to monotype to make it look a little better.
Thanks I use the mono font in my other posts :wink:
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Post 22-Apr-2006 05:33 (after 5 hours)

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Thank you very much! Grabbing it now.
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Post 22-Apr-2006 09:33 (after 3 hours)

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I'm just downloading the last 7 tunes as I already have the first 12, cheers :)
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Post 22-Apr-2006 13:56 (after 4 hours)

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Many thanks Akiraware, I'm very grateful for this 8)
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akiraware ®

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Post 22-Apr-2006 16:00 (after 2 hours 3 minutes)

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Hi wich versions still be needed?
I see posts about the remix versions in wich bootleg they are?
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DavidA

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Post 22-Apr-2006 16:12 (after 11 minutes)

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According to Stephane, the remixes aren't on any bootlegs yet.
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Post 22-Apr-2006 17:35 (after 1 hour 23 minutes)

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THank you SO So SO very much for seeding this little gem!!! :D
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akiraware ®

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Post 22-Apr-2006 18:53 (after 1 hour 17 minutes)

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According to Stephane, the remixes aren't on any bootlegs yet.
So no lossless or MP3 versions?
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DavidA

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Post 22-Apr-2006 19:14 (after 21 minute)

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MP3s are available in this thread. Robbo mentioned that he has them on a DAT in non-lossy.
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Post 24-Apr-2006 04:48 (after 1 day 9 hours)

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I stop seeding the other shows to seed only this one, I think this way all downloaders wil get as fast as possible, as soon someone finish I will restart the others again, "Controling my Bandwidth" HEHEHEHE
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Post 24-Apr-2006 14:45 (after 9 hours)

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Thanks for this gem! I'll help seed.
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akiraware ®

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Post 24-Apr-2006 15:12 (after 27 minutes)

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Thanks for this gem! I'll help seed.
Thanks Catalina, I restart seeding the others too
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DavidA

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Post 24-Apr-2006 22:53 (after 7 hours)

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A really great bootleg. The alternative mixes are great quality. What Difference Does It Make (Alternative) is really interesting. Crazy vocals at the end.
So is it just me, or do the first set (core) sound too slow? Is it in a different key or is it just too slow? For what it's worth, they're the same speed on my Sign Here bootleg. What Difference Does It Make sounds way longer than the version on The Smiths, the version on Hatful as well as the alternative version here.
So there are three sets:
Core (included here, but seem slow)
Alternative (labelled as 'fewer' in Stephane's notes)
Remixes (which we have in MP3 and robbo has on a DAT)
Are the two official Troy Tate demos covered on this CD?
Jeane (from This Charming Man CD5) as track 12.
Pretty Girls Make Graves (from Stop Me CD5) as track 16.
They sound like it to me.
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