1986-10-23 National Ballroom, Kilburn (Dance With Octopuses bootleg)

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DavidA ®

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Post 18-Feb-2006 11:44

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The Smiths
Dance With Octopusses
National Ballroom, Kilburn
23th October 1986
Source: Soundboard > Silver CD > CD-R > EAC WAVs > FLAC
Confirmed as non-MP3 derived, by Tau Analyzer 1.2.
Torrent created on 30th January 2006
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If you have the album Rank, then you have most of this already. This is a
fuller recording of that gig from the same source taken from a radio broadcast.
If you want the gig in it's entirety, the BBC broadcast the full show recently
and no doubt double CDs of the gig will appear at some point.
I have a low quality audience video of this gig with which I might sync up to
a better version of the audio at some point.
01. The Queen Is Dead
02. Panic
03. There Is A Light That Never Goes Out
04. Ask
05. Frankly, Mr.Shankly
06. The Boy With The Thorn In His Side
07. Is It Really So Strange
08. London
09. I Know It's Over
10. The Draize Train
11. How Soon Is Now
12. Bigmouth Strikes Again
DavidA
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23 October 1986
National Ballroom, Kilburn
The Queen Is Dead
Panic
I Want The One I Can't Have
Vicar In A Tutu
There Is A Light That Never Goes Out
Ask
(Marie's The Name) His Latest Flame/Rusholme Ruffians
Frankly, Mr. Shankly
The Boy With The Thorn In His Side
What She Said (with Rubber Ring intro and outro)
Is It Really So Strange?
Never Had No One Ever
Cemetry Gates
London
Meat Is Murder
I Know It's Over
/The Draize Train
/How Soon Is Now?
//Still Ill
//Bigmouth Strikes Again
There was still no surprise in the setlist, the Smiths stuck to the same songs
and order as for most of the dates on this tour. Tickets were £6.50.
As the band entered stage, Morrissey took the microphone and shouted a loud
"Hello!". As he sang the title line in "The Queen Is Dead", he pulled out a
board saying THE QUEEN IS DEAD which he waved about for the rest of the song.
For the
following number, "Panic", he used another prop, this time a noose which he
swung around to highlight the "Hang the DJ!" lyric. That song was extended
with a longer drum intro. Before "There Is A Light That Never Goes Out" in
which as usual he didn't sing the outro chorus, Morrissey asked "Could I
please ask the journalists to stop throwing things?". "Ask" and "Is It Really
So Strange?" were both introduced, the former as "...our new single." In the
latter Morrissey sang "Oh yes you can kick me" where in the studio version he
usually sings "Oh yes you can punch me".
At the beginning of "Meat Is Murder" Johnny picked notes from an unidentified
song. During the final number of the main set, "I Know It's Over", Morrissey
gradually pulled his shirt over his head and sang the end of the song with his
head hidden inside it. Returning for the second encore, "Still Ill", Morrissey
thanked the audience "Thank you you've been very nice, very kind, very
generous". In that piece, he slightly changed a line to "If I were you I
really wouldn't bother". At the beginning of "Bigmouth Strikes Again",
Morrissey threw the t-shirt he had just changed into to his fans and sang the
song barechested.
This concert was recorded by the BBC for later radio broadcast. In 2003, the
whole concert was webcast on BBC6's web radio.
OFFICIAL RELEASES
The BBC recording was edited down to 14 tracks and released in 1988 as the
"Rank" album. Click here for full details.
BOOTLEGS
Quite a few bootlegs were produced from various radio broadcasts over the
years. As the concert was partially officially released on "Rank", the aim of
bootleg buyers is to get the six missing songs: "I Want The One I Can't Have",
"There Is A Light That Never Goes Out", "Frankly Mr Shankly", "Never Had No
One Ever", "Meat Is Murder" and "How Soon Is Now?". But only three of these
are circulated in radio quality. The other three are only available from an
audience recording.
The most complete bootleg is a double-LP titled "The Bad Boy From A Good
Family" (also known as "That Funny Manchester Group"). It features a fair
audience recording of the complete gig ("Rusholme Ruffians" is even featured
twice, at the end of side A and the beginning of side B). It was later
transfered on many fanmade cds under the same title, or "The Complete Rank".
These are the only sources for the six songs missing on "Rank".
The second best option is the "Higher Rank" and "Unruly Girl" bootleg cds,
produced from a radio broadcast cd and featuring 17 songs in great quality,
including "There Is A Light That Never Goes Out", "Frankly Mr Shankly" and
"How Soon Is Now?" absent from "Rank".
"Dance With Octopusses", an 'official' bootleg cd, puts together 12 songs,
including the same three absent from "Rank" but included on "Higher Rank".
The quality is also excellent, as they also come from a radio broadcast.
"Morrissey 1959-1986" is produced around a 4 February 1983 concert and four
radio and tv sessions. It includes three songs from this gig, the same missing
tracks mentioned in the previous paragraph. "Flowers" is produced around a 18
March 1985 concert and 2 radio session and includes two songs from this gig,
"There Is A Light That Never Goes Out" and "How Soon Is Now?".
The "A Nice Bit Of Meat 2" mixed content bootleg LP and "A Nice Bit Of Meat"
mixed content bootleg CD include "There Is A Light That Never Goes Out" and
"Frankly Mr Shankly" among other live tracks, radio sessions and soundchecks.
The "Acid Head" bootleg 7" available in a few vinyl colours is rather useless
to non-completists. It pairs "Cemetry Gates" and "I Know It's Over" from this
concert with the Peel session of "Half A Person".
A visual souvenir is available for this gig. An audience recording of the
whole concert (minus the intro to "The Queen Is Dead) is circulated on bootleg
VHS and DVDs. An alternate audio bootleg available from bootleg traders but
not on the internet might have been lifted from this DVD.
MP3s were produced for all of these bootlegs and are commonly found on the
usual file sharing networks. The recording available on "Unruly Girl"
mentioned above can be found under its alternate title "Higher Rank".
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Post 10-Mar-2006 05:06 (after 19 days)

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Thank you very much for this!
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Post 26-Mar-2006 14:10 (after 16 days)

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Yeah, cheers for seeding this!
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Post 31-Mar-2006 19:49 (after 5 days)

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Anyone have the full version of this that was broadcast by the BBC in their Smiths 20th Anniversary week?
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Post 22-Apr-2006 17:02 (after 21 day)

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Thanks so much. Had a verrrry poor lossy source (lost it in HD crash)...cant wait to hear it again!! :lol:
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Post 22-Apr-2006 19:27 (after 2 hours 25 minutes)

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Anyone have the full version of this that was broadcast by the BBC in their Smiths 20th Anniversary week?
"Full Version" with all tracks played in that gig? I'm very interested too!!
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Post 22-Apr-2006 19:41 (after 14 minutes)

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Take a look at this thread.
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akiraware

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Post 22-Apr-2006 21:14 (after 1 hour 33 minutes)

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Take a look at this thread.
I have the full version but in audience recording only, will be great to find the broadcasted one
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Post 19-Feb-2007 17:54 (after 9 months 26 days)

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Hi again,
and yet again I leeched a fine one ... o.k. I have the "Rank" - LP ... but this one seems a little rougher in the end ... so I'm happy again that I found this community ...
Thanks to everybody uploading & seeding ...
Greetings from Stubs
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Post 20-Feb-2007 08:49 (after 14 hours)

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I don't think the full gig has ever been broadcast. There were radio spots beforehand on the BBC claiming that they were going to broadcast the full show, but in the event they only broadcast what had been broadcast before, which I recorded from digital satellite. I assume they meant they were going to broadcast the whole transcription disk of the show, which everyone took to mean the full gig.
Unless anyone knows different. I certainly haven't come across anyone who's heard and recorded the full show.
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Post 20-Feb-2007 13:13 (after 4 hours)

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I got a digital version of the Digital Satellite broadcast, which missed three tracks. It did have a nice version of How Soon Is Now though.
I also took a recording from the transcription disk, but from memory that was incomplete as well.
I've never come across the full version from the BBC.
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Post 20-Feb-2007 14:37 (after 1 hour 24 minutes)

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Is the transcription disk what was pressed on to this bootleg, i.e including How Soon Is Now, There Is A Light and Frankly Mr Shankly that were missed off Rank?
Were any of these tracks included on it (or on DSAT broadcasts): Never Had No One Ever, Meat Is Murder, I Want The One I Can't Have? These are the tracks that seem to have been not been broadcast at all.
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Post 20-Feb-2007 14:39 (after 1 minute)

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I got a digital version of the Digital Satellite broadcast, which missed three tracks. It did have a nice version of How Soon Is Now though.
I also took a recording from the transcription disk, but from memory that was incomplete as well..
David, I would love to hear that Digital Satellite broadcast! Any chance you can post that?
Many thanks!
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Post 20-Feb-2007 18:02 (after 3 hours)

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As is the nature of DSat, it's lossy, which goes against the protocol of the board. It's perfect quality though...
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Post 25-Feb-2007 01:20 (after 4 days)

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Muchas gracias DavidA
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