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Post 01-Oct-2014 06:45

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There is just 1 video of the final concert of The Smiths and the audio quality is very poor... But, I was wondering, why there is a record of "Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others" in so good quality? the whole show was recorded??? and if it's the case, why the hell they dont release it yet!!? The record of SGABTO sounds crystal clear, is amazing...


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Post 01-Oct-2014 10:10 (after 3 hours)

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The whole show was recorded from the soundboard by Grant Showbiz. He recorded a lot of the Smiths shows but they remain in a cardboard box in his loft. Frustrating, isn't it?
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Post 01-Oct-2014 12:50 (after 2 hours 40 minutes)

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Frustrating, isn't it?
Damn Straight :(
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Post 01-Oct-2014 16:23 (after 3 hours)

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He's not the only one sitting on a gold mine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O767QnI8c20
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Post 01-Oct-2014 16:56 (after 33 minutes)

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He's not the only one sitting on a gold mine
Exhibit B : Mike Joyce' 'Stash Tapes'
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Post 01-Oct-2014 21:35 (after 4 hours)

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Those stash tapes seem to be mostly bootlegs. I had some of the same cassette inserts. I'd be interested to know who put that A4 binder together for Mike. Maybe someone here?
When he went on the Mark Riley show on Radio 6 he played The Click Track so he's sitting on a few interesting things, although I'd guess that was the most interesting one.
Tape 12 - Free Trade Hall
Tape 13 - 1984-03-14 - University Of Liverpool
Tape 39 - The Draize Train
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Post 02-Oct-2014 03:43 (after 6 hours)

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So do you believe that in the near future they could release this material?? I would be happy to hear some more live performances, morrissey always add things or change the entonations of the lyrics :P
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Post 02-Oct-2014 09:13 (after 5 hours)

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So do you believe that in the near future they could release this material??
Unfortunately not.
The BBC recorded two gigs. One is Kilburn, most of which was released as Rank although you can find a few more tracks from the same gig here. The other is Oxford, which was partially released as B-sides but the remainder can be found here.
http://smithstorrents.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=2359
http://smithstorrents.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=2358
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Post 02-Oct-2014 09:21 (after 7 minutes)

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Here's where that recording of Some Girls resides now.
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Post 02-Oct-2014 23:42 (after 14 hours)

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Unfortunately not.
I Dont understand :( What's the point in recording something and then never release it? they want that material for them or what? and when he died, what will happen whit the material? does Morrissey or Johnny Marr have some power on this?
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Post 03-Oct-2014 07:41 (after 7 hours)

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Unfortunately not.
I Dont understand :( What's the point in recording something and then never release it? they want that material for them or what? and when he died, what will happen whit the material? does Morrissey or Johnny Marr have some power on this?
We can but speculate. I think Moz is on record saying that due to the court case with "the other two" and particularly Mike Joyce for not settling out-of-court he doesn't want to do anything that will make those two money.
Hence nothing "new" has really been released in many years, barring the "Complete Smiths" remasters/reissues.
Hell hath no fury like a bitter old b*stard scorned.
I fully expect that this will change once Moz has died but let's not be willing that eh.
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Post 25-Nov-2014 16:00 (after 1 month 22 days)

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All very frustrating. This sort of situation pops up from time to time with bands and from a fan perspective it's so damn annoying. When it's money related though, that does tend to rule.
Hell does freeze over occasionally though so don't lose hope :)
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Post 25-Nov-2014 18:10 (after 2 hours 10 minutes)

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I think they'll show up at some point, but maybe not some point soon.
When I spoke to Grant last year he hadn't yet made a backup of those tapes :(
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Post 11-Dec-2014 10:29 (after 15 days)

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He really does need to backup those tapes and store off-site.
Floods, fire, damp etc can finish them all off any time.
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