Shoplifters From Manchester Bootleg

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batnaMMV ®

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Post 25-Mar-2006 14:17

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THE SMITHS - "SHOPLIFTERS FROM MANCHESTER"
Runtime: 75:45
Liberated CD
Label: VooDoo Sounds
Silver CD --> Toast 5.23 (AIFF) --> xAct 1.53b (FLAC6)
encoded by: NimrodSonny/midy/Herbie
Sound quality: A
TRACKLIST:
1. WONDERFUL WOMAN
2.WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?
( Original demos the band used to get the first lp- contract late 1983)
3. THE HAND THAT ROCKS THE CRADLE
(Rec at The Hacienda, Manchester, UK, 4th Feb. 1983,sbd, 3rd Smiths live-performance)
4.THESE THINGS TAKE TIME
(Rec at Assembly Rooms, Derby, Dec 7th, 1983, sbd)
5. GIRL AFRAID
(Rec at the Hammersmith Palais, London, UK, March 12th, 1984)
6. MISERABLE LIE
7. HANDSOME DEVIL
(Rec. at De Meervaart, Amsterdam, NL, 21st April 1984,sbh)
8. HAND IN GLOVE
9. GIRL AFRAID
10. BARBARISM BEGINS AT HOME
11. THIS CHARMING MAN
(Rec.at the Markthalle, Hamburg, 4th May 1984, sbd)
12. PRETTY GIRLS MAKE GRAVES
(Rec.at BBC-Radio 1, David Jensen Session, 5th September 1983)
13. RUSHOLME RUFFIANS
14. NOWHERE FAST
(Rec.at BBC-Radio 1, John Peel Session, 9th August, 1984)
15. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE LET ME GET WHAT I WANT
16. NEVER HAD NO OVER EVER
17. THE QUEEN IS DEAD
18. MONEY CHANGES EVERYTHING
(Rec. at Irvine Meadows, California, Aug 28th, 1986, sbd)
19. SWEET & TENDER HOOLIGAN
20. LONDON
(Rec.at BBC-Radio 1, John Peel Session, Dec 17th, 1986)
21. SHOPLIFTERS OF THE WORLD UNITE
(Last British TV Appearance, The Tube, April 10th, 1987)
BONUS TRACK:
22. HANDSOME DEVIL
(Demo-outtake from 1st album, Troy Tate Session)
This is a great sounding collection. However, tracks 13, 14 and 19 have been officially released (in much better quality than on here).


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Post 26-Mar-2006 19:45 (after 1 day 5 hours)

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I've been looking out for this one. Thanks batna!
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Post 26-Mar-2006 22:43 (after 2 hours 57 minutes)

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Isn't there a Morrissey boot with a very similar title to this ?
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Post 27-Mar-2006 05:24 (after 6 hours)

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Isn't there a Morrissey boot with a very similar title to this ?
There is:
http://smithstorrents.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=72
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Post 07-May-2006 13:36 (after 1 month 11 days)

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Looks great - thankyou thankyou thankyou!
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Post 07-May-2006 13:44 (after 7 minutes)

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This is a great sounding collection. None of it is commercially available.
This is not quite true: the BBC-recordings of "Nowhere Fast" and "Rusholme Ruffians" were released on the "Last Night" EP and "Sweet And Tender Hooligan" graced the B-side of the "Sheila Take A Bow" 12" - unless it's really "Half A Person" which is, along with "London", the other officially unreleased song from the last Peel session.
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batnaMMV ®

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Post 07-May-2006 17:09 (after 3 hours)

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Sorry, I had just posted the info file that came with the files I had. I did correct the names of the tracks as some were wrongly named and wrongly described but forgot to remove that sentence at the end!
It is "Sweet and Tender Hooligan" that has been included here in case you were wondering :wink:
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Post 07-May-2006 17:18 (after 8 minutes)

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Thanks for the clarification.
And don't worry about the comment. I just like information to be correct :grin: .
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Post 24-May-2006 21:02 (after 17 days)

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does someone have a coverart to the "Shoplifters from Manchester" bootleg???
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Post 02-Sep-2006 21:09 (after 3 months 9 days)

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aren't aiff files a tiny bit smaller than pcm wav files when you look at the two side by side?
say if you rip the same audio cd into standard ibm compatible PCM/WAV tracks. they'd be a certain size. then if you put the cd back in the tray and ripped into apple compatible AIFF tracks, they'd be just a tiny bit smaller. at least that's happened to me before.
i didn't like itunes because it was bigger than winamp and you didn't queue things up really, you always had to make a new playlist, bla bla bla i didn't like it. so i didn't download it. i avoided it. i downloaded a bootleg from oink in aiff format and i couldn't play it in my normal player (then), so i had to download itunes because i knew it could convert aiff to wav which i thought would be straight across. i didn't think you would lose any size or gain any size by converting it. wrong.
am i the only one that has ever noticed this? or is it seriously not a big deal? i'm not pissed off or anything, i just like when macs and pcs work together instead of making supposedly similar files smaller and larger than eachother. end. i'm still downloading this. :p
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Post 02-Sep-2006 22:50 (after 1 hour 40 minutes)

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As far as I know, CD quality (redbook) WAV files and AIFF files are both uncompressed 44.1khz 16bit stereo, so they should be the same size, aside from a possible small difference in the header.
Maybe Apple's version of AIFF is compressed, non-lossy.
Regardless, it's not too hard to convert between these standards, and provided none are lossy no harm will be done.
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Post 24-Sep-2006 20:04 (after 21 day)

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Who does backing vocals on:
3. THE HAND THAT ROCKS THE CRADLE
(Rec at The Ritz, Manchester, UK, Feb. 1983,sbd, 3rd Smiths live-performance)
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Post 24-Sep-2006 23:29 (after 3 hours)

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Hrm... good question.
For a start the correct date and venue is the 4th February 1983 at the Hacienda. I don't know who did the backing vocals on it. Marr did backing vocals in the early demos but this doesn't sound like him. You can hear more tracks from the same gig here.
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Post 06-Oct-2006 21:08 (after 11 days)

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Hrm... good question.
For a start the correct date and venue is the 4th February 1983 at the Hacienda. I don't know who did the backing vocals on it. Marr did backing vocals in the early demos but this doesn't sound like him. You can hear more tracks from the same gig here.
Have you got those early demos with Marr on backing vocals, i'd like to hear them.
Always assumed the backing vocals on this track was Marr, certainly it isn't a million miles from his talking voice.
Alternatively was that dancer still with the band at this stage, did he ever sing backing?
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Post 06-Oct-2006 21:24 (after 15 minutes)

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No... the dancer only lasted one gig I think.
The early demos with Marr singing are the Decibel demos, which if I had you'd know about. The Decibel demos are the first studio recording of Morrissey and Marr, before Joyce and Rourke joined. They are in the hands of a collector.
Might have been Marr singing.
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